As a Canadian myself, the child of a writer, and someone who doesn’t believe in god, interviewing Margaret Atwood is probably as close as I’ll get to having a truly religious experience. Atwood was sharp, hilarious, and generous with her time—even leaving her landline phone off the hook when it wouldn’t stop ringing—as we talked about the merits of jumping from gig to gig, the ins and outs of political resistance, doomscrolling, and much, much more. Here’s our conversation.